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planned parenthood continues with miguel marquez. good evening. i'm miguel marquez sitting in for anderson. we're about to learn more about the planned parenthood shooting. local officials expected to talk to reporters any minute now. this began before noon local time and ended late this evening when the gunman surrendered. >> the perpetrator is in custody. the situation has been resolved. there is no continuing ped dang the citizens of colorado springs. >> it has taken one local police officer's life and wounded nearly a dozen others. so far we neither know his name or background nor an alleged motive. we know the clinic, which is a
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massive crime scene is the focus of daily demonstrations by anti abortion activists and this is the latest in a string of attacks on clinics nationwide over the last several months. we want to take you straight out to colorado springs, colorado now where the latest press conference has begun. >> from the university of colorado at colorado springs police deputy. the uucs police deputy and college will release information about the officer at a later time. we had four civilians transported to local hospitals with gunshot wounds. we have five officers transported to local hospitals with gunshot wounds. nine individuals that were transported are in good condition at this time. tomorrow we will have a joint information center sent up from 6:00 a.m., 7:0 0 a.m. and
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telephone number for that joint information center will be 719-385-4362. i'm going to turn it over to police chief peter kerry to make a statement. >> i was able to spend a little bit of time at several of the hospitals with our injured officers and victims. all i can say is my heart goes out to them and the situation. a lot of people and the community at large. please show patience and we'll get through this together, thank you. >> john southerns the mayor of colorado springs. i want to convey to the loved ones of the victims, this is a terrible, terrible tragedy that occurred here in colorado springs today.
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obviously we lost two civilian victims, we mourn the loss of a very brave police officer. i just want to make sure that everybody knows that while this was a terrible, terrible tragedy, it could have been much worse if not for the actions of the first responders, particularly the police officers. they were able to get people out of the building safely and they were able to make sure -- >> that is local officials briefing reporters in colorado springs, colorado right now. the headline sadly is that the death toll that we had understood was one police officer has now risen to three. two civilians killed, one police officer dead in this six-hour rampage in colorado springs, colorado that took police officers several hours to bring this individual into custody at a planned parenthood. i want to bring in cnn's kyung
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lah covering this for us today. kyung, we heard them talk about the three individuals that are now dead, nine others in the hospital they are saying. a total of 12 victims. what are you learning right now in your report sng. >> that all of this really began on what was an ordinary black friday. it's what many people saw in their towns today, people out and about going to the grocery store and doctor, some seeing the eye doctor and planned parenthood was having a normal day until a man with a gun walked in. the first calls came in at 11:38 local time, reports of a man with a gun from inside the planned parenthood build income colorado springs. police quickly arrive on scene and are soon fired upon from inside the building. at least four officers with wounded. >> we saw officers fly into the parking lot with their lights on and everything and then we saw them pass our shop and go over behind the chase bank, which is
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next door and then there were officers everywhere on the whole perimeter and then we saw one of the officers that was behind the chase bank go -- we heard several gunshots and then we saw one of the officers go down behind his car and then the other officer helped him to safety -- >> you saw -- denise, denise, you saw the officer go down? you saw an officer get shot? >> yes, yes, it was terrifying. >> reporter: the area of the shooting which is heavily populated with shops and traffic quickly shuts down. business owners sheltering in place. >> we're told to go back to our cars and that's when a bullet cracked over my head and hit the stop sign on my left side and i just kind of flipped the switch and tried to do crowd control and get people back to their cars as fast as i could. >> reporter: at this point, police do not know if this is a single shooter or if more are involved. law enforcement set up a perimeter around the building. the fbi, atf and bomb squads on
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the scene. those who are able to escape the planned parenthood building are quickly taken to safety. but the gunman remains inside and hours after the first call came in, the gunman is still firing on officers. police are unsure how many civilians are bounded and how many remain inside the building. it has become a potential hostage situation. >> we have not transported everyone to the hospital at this point. we're still working through the situation. >> reporter: police are tracking the gunman's every move inside the building. they are not only concerned there may be hostages but also because of the possibility of explosive devices the gunman may have brought with him into the building before he began the assault. >> he is here with an ak looking up the ceiling, white mail trench coat looks like maybe a beard. looking around but still sitting and has the gun low ready
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position. he's walking down the hall why. guns at his waist. >> reporter: finally just before 5:00 p.m. local time, the suspect is cornered and surrenders to police. at least 11 are wounded. the shooter in custody. his ties to planned parenthood and motives still unclear. >> he's going to come out with his hands up. >> we got to take him out if he has any ieds. >> we have one suspect detained right now. >> good job. >> so many officers shot in this incident, how are they doing right now in the hospital? >> we should update that story that just -- that i just did, it didn't have that latest information from the press conference. we want to bring our viewers up to date. a total of 12 people were hurt. nine were transported to the hospital and unfortunately, three people died, two of them civilians and one the police officer. but as you mentioned, miguel,
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there are four officers who are in the hospital. there was just a news conference with the fire chief at the hospital and he called the officers heroes, that they are alive, that they are in pain, some of them in some pain but that they are heroes and their spirits are quite high. despite the fact that this has been a terrible day for colorado springs, the police officers in the hospital, they look like they will recover, miguel. >> sounds like they are in good shape. thank you kyung lah in los angeles, thank you. >> a little perspective from former head of the nypd's hostage negotiation team and also former fbi senior profiler mary ellen o'toole and former secret service agent dan and former cia officer bob baer. jack, right now we don't have a lot of answers here. what pops into your head as the main questions that need to be looked at and answered? >> well, any type of active shooter scenario, it's usually
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ideal that the police when they respond they get to get there as quickly as possible to resolve it. however, we don't know how much information the police had at this point and generally speaking in new york city, our protocol is to slow it down and not necessarily go through that door unless we know in fact it's an active shooter scenario. so perhaps it wasn't going on at that moment when the police arrived, but finally, you know, once they establish that there is this active shooter, the police did make the entry as witnessed as five police officers shot, one tragically killed. >> seems a lot of officers who were injured going in, aggressive operation? >> yeah, the idea is to get in there quickly and get it resolved as quickly as possible to, yo u knu know to prevent an further lose of life. >> does this surprise you? we don't know what specific firearms or possible explosives the shooter had or the ammunition would be a factor in
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how long we could have kept police at bay, correct? >> it did surprise me especially in light of the tragic attacks in paris and the different approach we have now in law enforce the to these types of scenarios as our prior guests stated, columbine changed everything. these people are looking to rack up body counts. this is an awful situation to where as in the past we looked to slow it down, set up a perimeter and negotiate. after paris, mumbai, west gate, the goal is to mitigate the problem to stop it. it does surprise me this went on as long as it did but turned out in the end to be some good strategy decision making. >> someone who fires on police when they respond and the fact that the shooter was taken
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alive, does any of that surprise you? >> it absolutely does. this guy invested a lot of time into this event today. he basically has thrown away his life. it will never go back to normal. he let people go walk out of the building. he was in a building surrounded by other, you know, shopping facilities and restaurants in the area. if he wanted maximum fatale day, he could have gone to a quote unquote better site and then after all of this, he surrend s surrenders. so there is so much inconsisten inconsistency, it is confusing to identify the motive. so, yeah, a lot of his behavior for me is very surprising. >> bob, the fact this guy had or may have had explosives, they saw him take items in, couple bags, how does that change the situation for authorities as they go into something like this? it could have really increased the amount of caution they have
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to take, yes? >> miguel, this is -- the fact that he took in propane tanks and that's one report that's come out from the police in colorado springs tells me he was intending to take the building down if you take a booster charge and wrap it around and ignite it, it's very damaging. i've seen terrorist groups use these. question is, in fact, did he bring the devices in and what sort of initiated it? that's something we'll find out. that tells me he may have intended to take his own life and possibly change his mind. >> jack, what is your sense of it? would police be doing on the scene right now? clues would they be looking for? >> well, i think, first and f foremost, what was the motivation and was he targeting planned parenthood facility? it a domestic incident where he was going to get some wife or
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girlfriend revenge? he a former employee there going after his supervisor that may have fired him? plain and simple, act of terrorism. was he mentally ill. they have to figure out the profile. >> dan, on the ground there, what would they be looking for forensically? >> well, you're going to be looking for obviously shell casings, any type of evidence to put together -- you're going to have to reverse engineer this crime and go through this individual's contact network, financial contacts, phone contacts, computer contacts and e-mail history, everything they can do to reverse engineer the crime and one thing we haven't discussed is the fact that no one knows for sure yet this was in fact a loan wolf. we hope that's the case. we hope that the incident has in fact stopped with this one individual, that's probably likely but we don't know that yet, either.
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we want to make sure this was a singular act by a single individual and not in fact a network of people. >> bob, if he did take those canisters in in order to blow up that building, they would be able to figure that out fairly quickly, yes? >> exactly. it depends on the initiation, if it's acetone and peroxide, they are highly unstable and i'm speculating they may have to blow it in place rather than try to disarm this thing. it's very, very danger rouls stuff. when people -- ieds made like this, just imp vielsed out of household items. >> if he took equipment in order to possibly blow up that building, why do we have the results we have? it just doesn't make any sense he would come out alive in someways? >> it doesn't make sense after investing that effort that he would surrender.
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at some point he clearly decided to change his mind. the question is what caused him to do that? is he satisfied with what he's done? or did he, you know, did he stop and realize there's nothing more that he can do? i think it would be very speculative to say at this point but clearly to me, as a behavioral scientist, there is a shift in his plans that took place here and it's a pretty seismic shift and they need to understand why. i think once they go to his home and contact other people which is going to be incredibly important, they will get a lot more information because they don't know the full extent of the damage and i mean by that the full extent of the homicides that this guy could have committed. >> you know, jackie, do you think they will have answers pretty quickly here? >> probably take a little time, i think within a couple days at least they should have some solid information, i believe. >> and dan, when they go at this
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individual, i take it will they will look at everything from his computer forensics to everything he was doing in the days leading up to, this as well. >> no question. they -- like i said before, they will reverse engineer and talk to anyone that had contact with this individual, family members, potential co-workers bauecause right now motivation is important. we established a semi secure crime scene. we have explosive devices potentially on the scene but now it's motive important and determining again that this is just a single incident with a single person and not a network. >> clearly, we'll find out in the days ahead. >> thank you-all very much. next, a woman who didn't just simply hear gunshots, she heard the bullets whizzing by. ♪
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we have gotten late word investigators may have found inside a car parked on the clinic, the car of the individual responsible of this a law enforcement official tells us they believe it belongs to the suspect and are investigating it for the possibility that it may contain k explosiv explosives. first joining us by phone, tessa smart and peggy. i understand you work at the chiropractor's office close. explain what p happened. >> i was sitting at my desk by
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the front door. i was watching a patient standing by our front door, our whole front entrance is glass and i saw she was looking into something and then i heard what i thought for a split second was maybe gunfire but then i kind of quickly went into denial, especially since i was watching that patient and she never backed up but as i continued to hear it, her face started to get a little concerned, a little confused. then i got up to check things out and before i made it to the door, i heard a very district bullet go right by the door and hit something and i ran back to my desk and grabbed a bunch of keys and fumbled at the door trying to find one to lock, never did. obviously, as i was doing that i was seeing the police commotion outside, police running everywhere ducking behind cars with guns so i ran back to yell
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at the doctor and the -- i'm sorry, the keys and came to the front and locked the door. i turned off the lights, hit the closed sign and ran to the back. >> amazing how quick you were in responding to all of that. where were you when this thing started and what did you see and hear? >> i had gone to the grocery store and when i went in, i turned into the parking lot, there wasn't anything going on. i was in my gym clothes so i hurried and picked up a couple things, went to self-check out, came out of the store and they had pulled the glass doors to where they were closed about two feet or three feet. someone, i heard someone say there was a shooting at planned parenthood and someone from king soopers, a manager or assistant manager said i wouldn't hang
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around here, i would run to my car and get out of here. so i ran to my car. someone yelled get down, get down and then i heard some pop, pop, pop, pops and then someone, i don't know if they were yelling at me or who they were yelling at said, get in your car, lock the door and get down. and so that's what i did and i continued to hear pop, pop, pops. >> ms. smart, you have an office that is all windows in front. you were quick enough to grab keys, shut everything down but were you able to even think at this time? was going through your mind? >> honestly, for awhile, i was just actually in denial that it was gunshots until the one went flying by or i would have acted a little sooner. but i kind of couldn't believe it, never thought something would happen like that, you
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never think that's going to happen to you. >> do you know this planned parenthood, do you shop in this area quite often? >> yes, i just live down the street. >> and do you see protests outside of it? are you familiar with this area? how strange is it that your day started off going to the shop and you end up getting cover for your life? >> well, i go to this grocery store two or three times a week. i try to avoid if there's any kind of demonstration going on at planned parenthood, but i also have been into that planned parenthood and i had seen, i mean, it's very secure in my opinion, it was very secure. i don't know. >> tessa, these officers on the scene describe for us what looks like you said that they had
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shields and marching in sync telling everyone to stay inside. did you feel they were completely in control of the situation? >> i felt safe. i don't really want to say they weren't in control but for awhile they did not know where he was. that part was really scary. we were yelled at one time by an officer to get away from the windows, there is a shooter, we have to get back. the second officer came in and let us know that we need to stay away from the windows because there is a shooter shooting in that direction, but they did not know where he was. so they were definitely doing an amazing job taking care of us, but it was scary there for awhile. we didn't have an idea to where he was. >> all right. tessa smart and peggy thank you both for joining us. have a very relaxing and safe weekend. i want to go to colorado springs reporter eric singer.
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eric, very tense situation over the last several hours. describe the scene there going on as you were reporting it. >> reporter: well, this was an active crime scene and continues to be an active crime scene, miguel. take a look behind me. you can see this is going to be stretching out blocks and this is what police officers and other law enforcement to have to deal with now to look for casings, to understand the motivations of the shooter and be able to make sure no explosive devices were left behind. as i understand it, cnn is reporting that the vehicle of the shooter was found and there was some canisters found inside the vehicle, of usually, this is still a very tense situation and a search for answers is really continuing. just a moment ago i heard from one of your guests about the fact of living in this area and planned parenthood, this is a very busy stretch of road. this behind me, if you see, you might be able to see it. there is a big giant building probably about three to four blocks behind me and there's a big white light there.
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that's actually around where the planned parenthood building is and that's what officers have to deal with right now and that's how far we've been cordened off because once again, there was law enforcement. it looked like something you would see out of a scene in the middle east when a bomb had exploded but in this case, it was an active shooter investigation where now we've learned more tragedy. >> eric, a very complicated start to all of this. eye eyewitnesss said the shooting began in the parking lot and retreated into the planned parenthood. do you have a better sense of how this got started and unfolded? >> well, i think your guests have been talking a little bit about it and right now it is that search for answers. i don't have it. i know that right now the gazette newspaper staff and the gazette.com staff and power to print and power online are trying to unfold and put this all together. what i can tell you is according to our reporting, what we
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learned is behind me once again where the big light is three ocho four blocks away what had happened was a colorado springs police officer had first gotten here. it was an active shooter investigation. a university of colorado at colorado springs or uccs office arrived secondly and also tried to assist that other officer and as we later learned, he was one of the officers killed. >> terrible. eric singer, thank you very much. pamela brown has new information about the suspect's car and concerns it may have explosives on board. ♪
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now with the suspect now in custody in colorado springs in the long armed stand off over, we're just now getting new information from the scene at the planned parenthood clinic in colorado springs. again, three people are dead. one police officer and two civilians. right now virtually every state, local and federal law enrs enforcement agency is on location. pamela, what can you tell us about the car? >> bomb squads are there on the scene and located what they believe is the suspect's car and at this stage, they are working on looking at possible explosives associated with the car possible propane tanks. we know that we heard from the public information officer there on the ground that the suspect possibly had propane tanks with him in the building and now we're learning that these bomb squads and these explosives detection k-9 teams are on the ground and looking at possible
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explosives in the suspect's car. the car, by the way, we're told, the car they believe is asoe associated with him is right outside of the planned parenthood building. miguel, this is still a very active situation. it could be hours until they have everything contained and are able to say that this area is safe. >> well, clearly they are making headway. we don't know this guy's name yet but before long we'll probably know everything about him. law enforcement was tracking the gunman with video feed from securi security cameras, is that right? >> that's right and swat teams were able to coordinate inside the building and looking at security feeds from inside the camera and able to track where the gunman was moving around and if you listen to the communications, it appears he was moving around the hallways quite a bit. in fact, at one point they were talking about the fact the feed went out and they no longer had
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eyes on the gunman. you can imagine how frightening that was for officers trying to track his movements and make sure he didn't come into contact with any of the victims. at one point according to the video footage that they were looking at this remote video footage, he was very close to one of the victims and they talked about that and had to make tough judgment calls whether to take action against the gunman because of his close proximity to some victims, miguel? >> any indication this planned parenthood was specifically targeted by this gunman. >> we don't have that indication yet. you can't ignore the fact this is a facility that does provide abortion services but it's really going to be up to the investigators if he is willing to talk getting information from him to, you know, reveal what a motive was, why he decided to go to the building and open fire and also looking at his electronic social media to piece it together.
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at this stage we don't have a clear cut motive, miguel? >> pamela brown, thank you very much. more on the reason why they found themselves in harm's way. tom foreman join us on that. tom, walk us through where the shooting took place. >> the shooting, this is actually the key question, miguel when you think about it. where did it precisely take place? early on they knew it was generally in this part of colorado springs but boy, that's a lot of people. authorities closed off this entire road even though planned parenthood is here. they said organize anytin origi vicinity. if you add the houses here, houses here, 750, maybe 800 and shopping centers here and shopping districts, a lot of travel. that confusion added to the problem. when you narrow it down it's confusing. they knew there was a gunfire happening here at one point, but
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they also knew as we heard all day today, people down here in this shopping center talked about bullets coming through here, people talked about seeing victims over here. we now have some reason to believe that maybe some of these victims escaped over here by this bank but it added to a sense of confusion here about what was happening and then as they moved in closer, they still had problems because look, this is planned parenthood over here. this is the center of all the concern. but this is large center that helps elderly citizens. so there were people nearby that also had to be accounted for and protected particularly if you talk about an explosive device or suspected explosive device. that added into a situation where a couple hours, three hours after this started, police were still saying look, we don't really know if we have this guy contained. we're not really sure if there is only one gunman. we're not really sure what is happening here. it was that uncertainty and the
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fact they were talking about somebody with what they believe to be a high-powered rifle and possible explosive devices whether they knew about those at that point or not we don't know. that is the reason they had to keep the whole area locked down for quite sometime even though now we can say it really was all about this building and the immediate environment. miguel? >> certainly watching it here and there, there was confusion how this thing was unfolding. a very large area for police to lockdown basically and it was that added element that there may be some kind of explosive here that added to the confusion. >> absolutely. that added to it and the fact as i want to go back to the main image here, look at this when you have people down here, a quarter mile away talking about bullets whistling through the air, that is a cause for concern to say are they really coming from here or somewhere else? is there something that police officers are missing? they had to think about all of that in an active shooting situation. >> tom foreman for us thank you
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now, the armed attack underway when planned parenthood
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cecal richards tweeted this. the staff at planned parenthood rocky mountain provided care every day no matter what. keep them in your thoughts and prayers. we still don't know the gunman's motives but fair to say planned parenthood across the country, every facility considers itself a potential target. brian todd has been digging on that angle and joins us now. >> if this facility was targeted because of the services it was offered, it's not the first time for an abortion provider in the u.s. this facility in colorado springs does perform abortions according to the website. we don't know if this was a targeting of that office because of the services it provides. if it was a domestic situation or if it was something else, they are going to ascertain the motives in a short time. if it was a targeting of planned parenthood, it certainly would be the latest on a string of attacks or on doctors that work with them and these date back decades. the last known one was charles
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tiller in 2009. we'll come back to him in ae second. there are disturbing numbers on the targeting of abortion providers since 1977. according to the federation, there have been eight murders of abortion providers in the united states between 1977 and last year and 17 attempted murders the group says the federation says there are 42 incidents where providers are targeted in bombings and 182 cases of arson directed at the facilities or people providing abortions. there have also been tens of thousands of cases of harassment, hate mail, harassing calls and bomb threats. we'll go back to charles tiller. he was the most farecent fatal attack. shot and killed inside his church in kansas. he was the director of a clinic that performed late-term
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abortions. his murderer is serving a life sentence. in october 1998 this gentleman worked at an abortion providing clinic in buffalo, new york was shot through the window of his kitchen with a high-powered rifle and james cop was convicted of second-degree murder in that case and is now in prison. there have also been bombings of abortion clinics in, we'll have to stress bombings of abortion clinics january 1998 an off-duty police officer working as a security guard at an abortion clinic in alabama was killed when that clinic was bombed. eric rudolph, the man that bombed the atlanta olympic park in 1996 was convicted in the birmingham clinic bombing and confessed near atlanta in january 1997. tonight, vicki cowens, president and ceo of planned parenthood rocky mountain said we don't yet know if planned parenthood was the tar get and share the concerns of many americans that
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extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in the country. we'll never back down from providing care that feeds domestic terrorism in this country. safe support of environment that millions rely on and trust and characterizes as domestic terrorism and says this facility did have strong security procedures. that will be subject of the investigation ahead. >> possibly a jump for her to say that but in the days ahead we'll find out and strong security indeed. brian todd, thank you. the security procedures needed as we reported in the facility in colorado springs had a safe room where some people hid today during the shootout and stand off. back with us on the phone former fbi senior profiler mary ellen o'toole and joining the conversation, former fbi agent dan danny. when you look at the ideology,
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how does that change the way law enforcement would deal with it? >> i'm not sure they developed what his ideology is and there is a conflict in the behavior and how this whole thing concluded. if his ideology was to, you know, do maximum damage at the planned parenthood and to kill people and law enforcement, somewhere along the lines that commitment seemed to stop and he had almost a sign of change in his commitment to follow through with it which is surprising to me because in so many cases we see that ideology carries them through to suicide or suicide by cop. we didn't see that in this situation. the reason for that change in how this ended is going to be very, very critical. >> it is a complicated picture. danny, your thoughts on ideology
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and if that is motivating this person, how does that differ the threat for law enforcement, try to contain it? >> well, he's going to be hyper motivated. i think the fact that they had a safe room here probably saved a lot of lives. the idea that they would protect their patients and their staff is commendable and that activity kept several people alive with regard to him, he was highly motivated, i think, to scare people away. i'm not so sure it was total destruction because he -- most active shooter situations, if you get people cornered, the murderers kill them. they don't let them go. it's a little different here. it was more of a message like stay away, stay away, stay away or this may happen to you. i don't think his real purpose was mass murder. i could be wrong about that but that's kind of the way it played out us specially since he decided to surrendered which tells you a lot about what his
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motive was. >> credit where credit is due. while this was all playing out, you actually said you believe this guy was going to give up. why did you think that? >> i did. for a lot of reasons, and the first place these things are accompanied by high energy where adrenaline drives their movements and thought and their motive. after awhile that adrenaline subsides and at that time they become extremely fatigued not able to really have a lot of energy but as the energy level comes down, rational thought comes down. a good negotiator can basically say look, your day is not over. if you have a message get it out. if you're in the grave you can't talk. i'm not so sure what technique those tactical people used but clearly the right one and by the way, we should condemn them for their heroic action. they saved a lot of people's lives and should be commended for the way they handled the crisis situation. >> quite incredible given that
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we understand they may have been yelling back and forth at this individual. thank you both very much. just ahead, i'll talk to reporter on the ground tonight in colorado springs, what he is seeing and hears as investigators look for clues. woman: my mom and i have the same hands.
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we've been learning more and more out of colorado springs all evening. three people confirmed dead in the shooting at a planned parenthood facility there. one police officer and two civilians killed. the gunman in custody. his name and motives as yet unknown. joining me now a reporter for "the denver post" what is the lawsuitest of the other victims? >> we know that the five police officers and four civilians injured in this are in good condition. that came about 30 or 45 minutes ago from a police spokeswoman. we don't know much more than that. >> and in terms of who the shooter is, where he is from, what are you hearing out there? >> we know pretty much nothing about him. we got a tip just before he was brought out and arrested that he was in custody and we saw him get taken out of an armored
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s.w.a.t. vehicle and put in a police cruiser and driven away. the only thing i can tell you about who we believe this man is, was that he was dressed in a white t-shirt, jeans, a middle-aged man but couldn't see much. we don't know his identity or what this whole thing was about or motive or anything like that. >> the photographs i have seen he looked extremely calm. he was in a white t-shirt and dark pants. a white beard and thinning on top and glasses, perhaps. did you get a better look at him? did he seem as though he was agitated? did you get a sense of him at all? >> i didn't see him closely. the one thing that the "denver post" reported. he told the officers that he was alone and the only shooter. beyond that, we don't know much,
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you know really anything about this guy. >> as far as any devices left at the scene, is there any sense of what those are and could there still be a threat out there? >> my understanding right now is that the threat has been neutralized. they did not say what the shooter brought into the planned parenthood building. there were fears of maybe there being propane or explosive device. but i think that threat was neutralized. eventually they went in and pulled people out that were still left in there. i think you saw a bus pass behind me. they are moving people that were stuck in the area and locked down. they are just leaving after six or seven hours. >> jesse paul, thank you very much. up next, more from colorado springs and we're bringing you all the details as we get them.
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we just now got the somber news from the university of colorado the name of the fallen police officer, garrett swayze, 44 years old. the death toll now at three. we have also gotten in video believed to be the suspect being taken into custody. he in handcuffs being led through a group of officers.
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we have yet to learn his name or alleged motive or anything at all about him. "the denver post" saying that he was acting alone. that does it for us for now. the cnn original series "the the cnn original series "the sixties" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com the supreme national effort will be needed to move this country safely through the 1960s. >> across the world soviet missiles are aimed at the united states. whatever the president does, he risks nuclear war. >> khrushchev calls west berlin a cancerous sore. >> lines are now drawn. >> 25 russian ships en route to cuba on what may be a collision course. >> no way of knowing whether western civilization will live or die. >> i think unless something is done, humanity will destroy itself.

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